osama bin laden met justice, the war in afghanistan will end next year. and as the strongest most powerful nation on the face of the earth, we engaged in clear eyed and principled diplomacy even with our adversaries in order to begin to destroy syria's chemical weapons and to place the first real constraints in a decade on iran's nuclear program. because i firmly believe in what the president kennedy once said. let us never negotiate out of fear but let us never fear to negotiate. i believe that. this diplomacy backed by the unprecedented sanctions we brought on iran, has brought us the progress that was achieved this weekend. for the first time in a decade, we've halted the progress on iran's nuclear program. key parts of the program will be rolled back. [ applause ]

>> international inspectors will have unprecedented access to iran's nuke cheer related facilities. this will help iran from developing a nuclear weapon. we're going to continue our diplomacy with the goal of achieving a comprehensive solution that deals with the threat of iran's nuclear program once and for all. and if iran seizes this opportunity and chooses to join the global community, then we can begin to chip away at the mistrust that's existed for many, many years between our two nations. none of that is going to be easy, huge challenges remain. but we cannot close the door on diplomacy and not rule out peaceful solutions to the world's problems. we cannot commit ourselves to an endless cycle of conflict. tough talk and bluster may be the easy thing to do politically but it's not the right thing for our security. [ applause ] it is not the right thing for our security.

[ applause ] >> this progress and potential it offers reminds us of what is possible when the united states has the courage to lead not just with the force of arms but commitment to peace, that's what keeps us strong and makes us a beacon to the world. that's how i'll continue to lead as long as i'm president of the united states. that spirit, not just what we can criticize or tear down or be against, but what we can build together, that's what brings me here today. because it's long past time to fix our broken immigration system. [ applause ] >> we need to make sure washington finishes what so many

americans just like you started. we've got to finish the job. and it's fitting that we're here in chinatown, a few miles away from angel island. in the early 1900s, about 300,000 people, maybe some of your ancestors, passed through on their way to a new life in america. and for many it represented the end of a long and ar duous journey. they finally arrived in a place where they believed anything was possible. for some it also represented the beginning of new struggle against prejudice in a country that didn't always treat its immigrants fairly or afford them the same rights as everybody else. obviously asians face this but so did the irish and so did italians and so did jews and many groups still do today. that didn't stop those brave men and women from coming.

they were drawn by a belief in the power of opportunity. in a belief that says, maybe i never had a chance at the good education but this is a place where my daughter can go to college. maybe i start out washing dishes but this is a place where my son can become mayor of san francisco. maybe i have to make sacrifices today but those sacrifices are worth it. if it means a better life for my family. and that's a family story that will be shared by millions of americans around the table on thursday. it's the story that drew my great great great grandfather from a small village in ireland, and drew my father from a small village in kenya, it's the story that drew so many of your

ancestors here, that america is a place where you can make it if you try. and here's something interesting, today more than one in four residents born outside of the united states came here in asian countries. many through our family immigration system. they are doctors, business owners, laborers, refugees. this rec center's make same, bettie young was a hero on 9/11. >> the president talking about immigration reform and before that the nuclear deal just reached with iran. we start following all of this from london. tell us about this deal we reached with iran. >> well, it's certainly being described as a historic deal and addresses a key component of the nuclear program.

this is not a comprehensive deal, being labeled as a interim agreement, if you will because it has a shelf life of six months. in that six-month period, the international community made up of the u.s. and its allies, including germany and china and russia and other members of security council have demanded that iran stop enriching uranium and reduces some of the stockpiles of already enriched uranium and more importantly, it does not develop any further centrifuges. in exchange for that, iran would have access of $7 billion of frozen assets held in international accounts and collapse the clincher in of this, the international community would be allowed to inspect iran's nuclear facilities. all of this has come under a lot of criticism from some in the united states closest ally, including israel and some members of congress, leadership of congress has said this deal does not go enough, in the words of the israeli prime minister makes the world a more dangerous

place because it doesn't dismantle iran's nuclear technology capabilities. a lot of debate about this agreement. there is cautious optimism being met from obviously the countries that signed onto it and it is being perceived in iran as a mijer milestone for that country as it tries to come back into the nation, into the community of nations following a period of very intense sanctions against that country. >> thanks for your reporting. i want to bring in kevin poll ak from the brookings institute and author of "unthinkable." what do you think of this deal? >> it's a good deal but also it's a small deal. i think both sides are hype ventilating over it in ways that are really unhelpful. >> elaborate on that. what would a larger or to your view more comprehensive deal

look like? what is this deal lacking? >> well, ultimately this deal is lacking what both sides really need. on our side, we want the iranians to shut down the weapons part of their whole nuclear program. and simply confine whatever they are doing on the nuclear front to purely civilian purposes and we need them to give us the kind of comprehensive inspections regime that will give us confidence that that's all they are doing, they are not cheating. for the iranians, they want much more comprehensive sanctions and relief. what they got was only a taste of that, a very small taste. they need a lot more from both of us. i think the deal was important. you heard him say it is a historic deal. that's certainly true, haven't had a deal between the u.s. government and ran yan government in over 30 years. it's important because it was an important confidence building measure for the two sides. each of them giving the other a little taste of what they wanted as a way of saying if you're willing to give us what we need in the full deal, we'll give you

what you need. >> it feels like an early handshake with more details to be worked out if there's anything long term. one of your colleagues at brookings always says, amateurs talk strategy and professionals talk capacity. the iranian's capacity to balance this with their crashing economy, has been a serious problem for them, looking at this today on this issue, their currency crashed over two thirds in the past year alone, largely in relation to these sanctions. how much is this a test case for the way sanctions can really work to bring one of our adversaries to the bargaining table? >> in some ways it's a little bit unique in terms of how fast things have happened. the really tough sanctions were only imposed on iran in the last couple of years. historically if you talk to scholars about this, they'll tell you sanctions typically take a lot longer. what we're seeing, you have an iranian regime that's decided

that this is hurting it badly and want to move in a different direction and they are amenable to trying to deal with us. that's a very positive sign. and in theory it might even make sanctions a more useful tool in the future if we can get the deal we need. >> this certainly feels like the third sentence in a very long and complicated story with iran. the next big question is, six months from now if we actually get there, will this mutual understanding or agreement or whatever you want to call it, will that lead to a bigger deal that rolls back iran's nuclear program? what do you think needs to happen between now and then for that to be a real possibility? >> yeah, a lot of really hard negotiations. here, i think the stories that have come out over the weekend, it's been heartening, the fact is we've learned there have been secret negotiations going on between the united states and iran going back to march, which actually makes me feel better about it because honestly, having started this process when i served in the white house in

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we've been covering the reaction to the iranian nuclear deal. it is mixed. carl levin said it's a realistic short term solution on the path to a more permanent agreement. but the reaction has not been completely positive, in one case the criticism is coming from one of the president's closest congressional allies. >> i think it bodes a very, very ominously for the region and in fact u.s. security. >> we're sending a signal to iran that they can continue to go ahead and by talking and acting like they have good will can get away with at least nuclear weapon production capability. >> they say the reaction in iran right now, they are spiking the

football in the end zone. >> now, that second guy was the ally, the other two are republicans luke russert will unpack -- >> long time ally -- >> if you watch the show, you know eric cantor is down for the pound. luke, it seems like there are three wings emerging. a big deal to have any kind of incremental deal with iran. there are people loyal to the president who say great, this is something. there is a conspiracy caucus that said it is to distract from obama care, including republicans in the senate, which is weird and factually wrong or haven't offered evidence for that rather serious charge. then there's something more substantive we're hearing from republicans and democrats alike, the bad cop caucus of members of congress who say whatever this is, we're going to be here with a tough end game in six months. >> that's absolutely right, ari. really the way to look at this is that the president and

administration on this deal on a very short leash with congress. you have internationalists that like this idea and view that through the prix of what this means historically. if you look at the relationship between the u.s. and iran, it's been quite tu multiuous for the last 30 years or so. if they if it goes well, it will be the single greatest achievement of the obama presidency. we always knew republicans would look at this deal and be skeptical of it mainly because most of them are ar dent supporters of israel and have close ties with israeli security and want that to continue. what's interesting with chuck schumer and bob menendez, i think it's possible to see tougher sanctions and that puts president obama in a difficult situation and could be the first veto of his administration, can harry reid hold off tougher sanctions in the next six months? that's going to be a very

fascinating political story that now we don't have the answer to. and obviously, if it gets to the president's desk, can he afford to veto it? he probably will want to in his second term but that's what to look at. will they get it through and what does it mean for obama and other countries involved? >> that's a great point. good to see you, luke. >> be well. >> now joining us jonathan allen. how are you? >> i'm good. how are you? >> doing well. let's start with that one wing out of the three. the bad cop caucus. there's an argument here that luke was just alluding to that they can play a constructive role and the president can say, i want a deal but i have hard liners in congress there are going to be more sanctions and tougher sanctions if we don't get a real package and that could be useful for our american interests. there's also an argument they won't be a bad cop but a stupid cop and force the president's hand at a time when this is delicate. >> congress always goes to the same tool when it comes to

sanctions and that's a hammer. they are not really big on nuance when it comes to sanction. one of the things they tried to do in the last couple of rounds of sanctions was create international cooperation by creating incentives to allow some companies to avoid sanctions and get them behind the sanctions they were putting in place to bring us to this point. as far as the bad cop caucus goes. >> hard to say. >> what you're likely to see is something in congress moving forward that would impose new sanctions in six months if the iranians haven't lived up to their end of the bargain. so something that's conditional on what happens over the first phase, congress will certainly want to vote on that. you've seen the house vote on new sanctions and you'll see the senate start to move in this direction. it's important for the president, to prevent the deal with the iranians from blowing

up because of what's going on in congress. >> this all makes they think back to a pretty big moment from the 2008 presidential campaign when the president told america that he would negotiate without preconditions, with rogue states like iran and north korea. do we have that tape? >> would you be willing to meet separately without precondition during the first year of your administration in washington or anywhere else, with the leetders of iran, syria, venezuela, cuba and north korea in order to bridge the gap at a divides our countries? >> steven is in the crowd tonight. senator obama? >> i would. and the reason is this. that the notion that somehow not talking to countries is punishment to them, which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of this administration is ridiculous. >> looks a lot different now. does washington see this moment with that strategy come to

fruition, does washington see this moment as vindication of that strategy? >> well, what you see with president obama had his hair has turned grayer since that moment. >> indeed. >> become wiser about how foreign policy works, particularly with adversaries and it was not him sitting down with ahmadinejad in his first year but sending through international process and then direct talks between the americans and the iranians as has been reported. jake sullivan, the national security adviser to the president and bill burns, the deputy secretary of state meeting with iranians directly, not in first year but after a lot of groundwork was laid. but this is basically what obama laid out originally. he wanted to talk to enemies of the united states and auk to adversaries and did it in a different way that he said he wanted in which it was much more -- >> the challenge of this exact

moment is keeping congress from imposing tougher sanctions that would totally scuttle this deal. it seems to me and luke was saying this as well, harry reid is the key person here. you can have senate democrats like chuck schumer and others saying it is not a good deal but it's up to harry reid to bring something to the floor of the senate. reid weighed in on whether he would bring sanctions to the floor. let's listen to that. >> the way i feel about it today, is the same way i felt about it last week. i said when we come back, we'll take a look at this to see if we need stronger sanctions and that's why i'm going to look at ken johnson chairman of the banking committee which has jurisdiction and bob nmenendez and they will do what they are supposed to do and study this and hold hearings if necessary. and if we need more work on this, we need to do stronger sanctions -- >> so not too clear there. what's your insight into what

harry reid is going to do? >> harry reid is barack obama's best friend in the senate, he's what stands between obama and the democratic caucus that is sometimes uncomfortable. especially with 2014 being a big election year. i think gives him room to operate but certainly the support of the president for now talking about a process, processes move slowly talking about possibly doing sanctions later on. he's helping barack obama right now. >> well, he's their best friend and you're our best friend, buddy. >> my pleasure, take care. >> it's not all gloom and doom in washington at the capitol. the christmas tree arrived this morning, stands 88 feet tall and traveled from washington state. the tree will be decorated with 5,000 ornaments hand made by children across the country. the official lighting is set for next tuesday night.

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winter weather marching east in time for the thanksgiving getaway. chris warren is here to tell us how bad it's going to be. >> it's going to be pretty bad. this is the mess right now in the south. it is going to move to the northeast. the green and yellow and rain and blue and purple, that is some wintry precipitation. that is going to move into parts of tennessee and mississippi, even alabama for the rest of today and then by tomorrow we're going to watch this move in the appalachians where we'll be dealing with wintry mix. dangerous driving conditions and then tomorrow we'll watch this in the afternoon and evening hours work into the bigger cities in the northeast. and by tomorrow night, you're going to be in the full swing of this mess. inland locations, higher elevations, will see the worst

of it. then by wednesday, still going to be dealing with that rain. so increasing tomorrow and then throughout the day on wednesday. by thanksgiving in the northeast, it is going to be clearing out but still it is going to be pretty blustery. some wind will be around making it feel much cooler. back to you. >> looks like a lot of fun. chris warren, thanks so much. there's more breaking news in connecticut just this hour. state released its official summary report on the newtown shooting at sandy hook elementary. rehema ellis is in danbury connecticut, outside the state attorney's office which released the report. what does this tell us? >> reporter: the report was released just a few moments ago as you point out. we have a team of people looking at it. the main thing that is stantding out in this report there is no clear reason why sandy hook elementary school was picked other than perhaps it was close to the shooter's home. adam lancast adam lanza acting alone and

planned his actions, including the taking of his own life. what many people wish they had an answer to the report was not able to say. it does say there is no conclusive motive for why he took actions he took. it goes on to say he had significant mental issues. that did affect his ability to live a normal life and interact with others and reading more from the report now. it says as he got older, he continued -- his condition worsened and it became more of a loner and went into higher grades at middle school, didn't like noise and confusion and began to have issues when he moved between classes. as a result during his high school years at some point he was home schooled and it was confirmed that we knew he liked video games as confirmed in the report. there is no evidence according to the report that he left messages on various websites as had been suspected. again, the headline on all of this this afternoon is that there is no clear reason why

sandy hook elementary school was picked except that perhaps it was close to the shooter's home. back to you. >> rehema, thanks so much for that. president obama just wrapped up his speech in san francisco about immigration reform. he was interrupted by a member of the crowd angry o over deportations. >> it's important lsh -- most importantly, we will live up -- >> cannot see my family. >> to our character as a nation. families are separated. i need your help. >> that's exactly what we're talking about -- >> that's why we're here. >> mr. president, use your executive order to halt deportation from all 11.5 undocumented immigrants in this country right now. we agree that we need -- >> obama, obama! >> you have a power to stop the deportation for all -- >> actually i don't, that's why we're here. >> stop deportation.

>> stop deportation. >> all right, guys, let's spin. you can always expect a heckler or two when you're president of the united states. for the past five months or so, we've assumed and been told that immigration reform was essentially dead in the water. what we are hearing from the president seems to be a more sympathetic, patient tune towards house republicans who have accepted it actually, surprisingly well. you have speaker boehner, i'm very encouraged that the president would accept our step by step approach. i think this move stems from anger and frustration from the american people that want something done on immigration. you have pressure coming from republicans from a number of groups, business conservatives and evangelical leaders who said immigration is crucial to getting track with voters after an embarrassing turnout. president obama has every reason to extend the olive branch. sitting at lowest approval numbers ever. the majority of the american

public is not in favor obama care. he has every reason to talk about something else beyond the health care rollout. and it's what the american people want. >> when republicans talk about a piecemeal approach and democrats talk about a piecemeal approach, i don't think they have the same thing in mind. for democrats immigration reform means a path to citizenship. for most americans, immigration reform means a path to citizenship. republicans want to focus on the enforcement piece of this. there's no polling that is pretty remarkable showing that 63% of americans support a path to citizenship and what is really incredible about this, even as our national narrative twisted and turned over the year, that number, 63% support, has remained incredibly stable. it is exactly the same now as it was at the beginning of the year. while congress loses focus on this, the american people are still strongly behind reform. >> i think that's right. the numbers are there nationally. i don't know what you mean when

you say olive branch. the president outlined a plan for a long time and worked through the senate and got a lot of republicans in the senate there. there's nothing more for him to do on the inside game with republicans, they have to decide they hold votes on the house on any of us. >> he's allowing them to have a stake in the game, this is how we want to approach, step by step -- >> just too finish -- >> hold on. >> finish the point. he's done all of that, outlined it and the question is whether they hold votes. on what we saw on the screen, pretty remarkable interruption of the president there. that person was up on the riser, which means they would be screened extra heavy. but what you see also and the reason why i don't look at it as heckling, that is citizen a activism and seen in part with those on a hunger strike and joe biden visited.

there is a grass roots pressure. we reported on that. they don't want to be interrupted in the diner. the president should be allowed to speak and not be so disrupted but there is a grass roots pressure that is important. >> absolutely. look, this issue is not ultimately economic or pragmatic. there would be a huge economic boone to america in bringing 11 million people out of the shadows and into paying income tax. they are already paying payroll taxes so they are taxation without representation and we could have them making more money, paying income tax and being better consumers but instead we get wrapped up in this emotional issue around i am afraid of america changing and becoming browner and becoming more like mexicans. we don't worry about immigrants from canada or europe or even coming from asia as much as coming from mexico and south america. there's deep problems with that. in a nation that is built on immigration for most of americans, there's a deep humanitarian concern with

helping these 11 million folks who are here. we mill tarrized the borders to allow folks not to move back and forth. now we have 11 million folks living here. we have to give them rights. >> and we have to figure out -- it shouldn't be a political issue, even some far right conservatives pushing for pathway to citizenship, even among evangelical leaders. we hope this continues to move forward. before we go to our tease, in case you missed it, tour'e began his stint on up against the clock like a man on fire. >> after their intrafamily dispute was publicly aired, mary cheney said she is not supporting her sister's campaign to unseat what -- >> 100 points for tour'e. >> radle. >> dan inoue. >> what retired college basketball coach? >> dean smith.

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pollster and political -- if someone like wendy davis, facing incoming attacks, when she goes to draw a contrast with her opponent, she has different hurdles and obstacles than a male candidate would, correct? >> that's correct. people hold women to higher standards and expect more of women. they expect them to be more honest and ethical. and it's so important for women to be able to maintain the perception that they are honest and ethical and that they are above the fray even when they go negative. >> linda, according to your research and talking to pollsters, being a woman is becoming an advantage politically. you talk about the 360 degree candidate. you have women with professional resumes equivalent to men and also experiences as a part of their family running a family,

is helping them being able to kraf craft a message, i can run a family, i can run a state. >> i'll be in touch with your family when i'm running that state which is what people really want. they think politicians are out of touch. we have been able to look at this so much and so in depth thanks to the research from the barbara lee foundation chgs unparalleled in the in depth work they have done. one of the things on negative advertising that is quite interesting. voters really like it when women's ads have real people in them talking about the negatives and making the case. they also like women's ads and negative ads from women candidates when they are talking about issues that matter to families because they think that reinforces the notion it's just like a woman candidate to bring a real person here and tell a real person's story and be in touch with our lives. that's very powerful for the women candidates. >> and barbara, it seems the

bottom line here is that people watching ads from female candidates, they are a lot more convinced and more effective when candidates are authentic and real. why is the case more so for women than men and how do you coach someone to be more authentic? >> what's so important again is for women to show they connect with voters, that they understand voters lives. people do expect women -- do understand people's lives and what happens at the kitchen table. so when women do have ads and do contrast, they like seeing them stand up for themselves and their positions and i really think that when women do stand up for themselves and their positions, voters also think that those women will stand up for them. >> you often found humor to be an effective tool for women candidates. >> this was part of what is really exciting about this research, done by the family

foundation because it turned conventional wisdom completely on its head. so the conventional wisdom was women aren't that funny, can't do jokes and can't do humor in their ads. we found actually that humor worked really well. now, it was true that the women more often were the straight person in the ad pointing to the ridiculousness of their male opponents but it worked very effectively and it was refreshing. people thought it was less negative in its tone. we found that humor worked very well for women candidates. >> great to hear. thank you both so much. >> thank you. >> did you know that the historic iran deal with a crafted with johnny cash playing in the background? in fact it was this very song ♪ went down down down and the flames went higher ♪

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mom swaps my snack for a piña colada yoplait. and when mom said i was going out too much, i swapped it for staying in. s [ shouts ] guess who's going out tomorrow. [ female announcer ] swap one snack a week for a yoplait. it is so good. . hello, i'm johnny cash. >> the man in black has been gone for ten years but he's still one of the most beloved figures in all of music history. since his death he sold over $130 million worth of music and inspired a pretty great movie about his life and a johnny cash song was heard blasting from a nearby bar. the man lifrz. why? the thing about dad that people find so easy to relate to, he was willing to expose his most cumbersome burdens and consuming

darknesses. this is a biography written by b bob hillburn. why did you want to spend years work on a bio about johnny cash. >> i was with johnny cash at folsom prison. that was my big pitch to get a job. and the concert was -- i never thought of writing a book about him until after his death. i saw some books that came out and didn't think they told the full story about the artist and man. he's going to be remembered 50 years from now as one of those pop culture figures from america and i thought he deserved a serious biography. >> indeed. one of the things you write about in this book is his upbringing in poor and rural arkansas. how did that influence his music and political views? >> figuring out where his

artistry came from would be the hardest part of a book. he comes from a cotton patch in arkansas and entries the field of country music and it turned out that was the dice, arkansas worked with his family every day as a child in the cotton patch, hot sun, and they sang gospel songs. they went to church, three times a week. they sang gospel songs and that gave them hope. his idea from a childhood was to make music that lifted people's spirits. and that was his best music that did that. >> yeah, definitely done that. you know, bob, toure and i were talking, and toure often looks for a way to awkwardly insert hip pop into whatever we're doing here. and we were looking to do that. and then we pointed out that johnny cash actually did a lot of work with rick reuben. so we hit the marker on that. and you have said, and written that that actually -- >> not hip-hop, but okay. >> that extended his leg race.

what do you mean by that? >> well, i think if johnny cash had died in 1990, he was pretty much a broken man career-wise. his record company can dropped him, country radio stopped playing him, his old fans forgetting about him. rick reuben, an unlikely hip-hop producer and says i want to make some music with you, john. john's first question was why? his biggest challenge was to get john to get his confidence back. june carter, his wife, said, "john, it's absurd you're going to work with this hip-hop producer. rts going to be an embarrassment." >> rick is so much more than a hip-hop producer. i want to go back to folsom prison. why did johnny cash go there? >> his career was teetering. in the '60s, he was making music mostly he wanted to make, meaningful music. that was not selling records. columbia records oh almost dropped him before "ring of fire" and he was still not the

superstar he thought that he got this great response from prison audiences. he could capture that on record, it would be a very, very big event. and i went because i thought it would be a great story and i was trying to convince the "l.a. times" to hire me. the two things i remember, the charisma and how meaningful it was. johnny cash's greatest talent may be -- he was a smart guy, 160 i.q., but could empathize with the underdog. he empathized with those prisoners. and the prisoners' response was fantastic. but the second thing i remember from that day, how scary it was. i had never been in a prison before. and two weeks before there had been a guard taken hostage. he had been freed, but it was so tense that guards were walking around with shotguns. the prisoners were told if you get out of the seats, we're going to stop the show. so when the concert was over, i thought, a., i've got a great story, and b., i'm out of here safe. >> tell us something we don't

know about johnny cash. what would surprise us? >> i'm sorry? >> what would surprise us about johnny cash we don't already know? >> there's so much. toure as a writer, you would appreciate this. as writers, we interview people -- i've interviewed dylan ten times, springstein, on and on. basically what i found in doing this book, we know what celebrities choose to tell us. we don't really know their total story. secondly, we don't really understand their artistry the way it's important to, because we're going from one artist to the other. we might spend a week on the new m & m album, the new arcade fire album. three years, seeing how his personal life ties into the -- to the music, gives you a whole new perspective of the person. but the thing in answer to that question, it was much darker than i imagined, johnny cash's life. rock n roll, drugs are row majority advertised.

keith richards is on heroin. but the pain it causes the person and family and the people around him is just staggering. >> all right. bob hillburn, thank you so much. up next, someone by the name of fuzzy jackson will rant about the war on bros. but first, one more johnny cash bit. ♪ ♪ well i grew up quick and i grew up mean ♪ ♪ my fists got hard and my wits got keen ♪ so you get the same, often for less. that's one smart board -- what else does it do, reverse gravity? [ laughs ] split atoms? [ flo chuckles ] [ whirring ] hey, how's that atom-splitting thing going? oh! a smarter way to shop around -- now that's progressive. call or click today.

hi. i'm former hollywood teen movie star, fuzzy jackson. you may remember me in dude, get more chicks. and aren't we going to be young

forever. and never too many chicks. sure, nowadays, i'm more likely to be mistaken to the black guy from my name is earl or the black guy from msnbc or lenny kravitz or the guy from snl. but i digress. today i'm here to deliver a special message, and that's nothing to do with financial problems caused by three divorces that forced me to take any job i can get. it's because i have to tell all my bro tastic fans something. obama care is a war on bros. listen to the experts. >> obama care is a war on bros. it's young men in women. >> women should pay more? >> look, it's not biased. i'm not saying this as a man, but i think that they are using the system a lot more than we are. so they go through a lot of preventive screening. they give birth. they have the whole mammogram, pap smears. guys, we don't like to go to doctors, right? >> that makes perfect sense! if you're a young man who is not a smoker, not sick, not poor, and not getting health insurance from your employer. then you're going to pay more. and that's wrong.

men have been getting all the advantages for a long time, and society is just fine. so why change now? obama care's idea of fairness means if you're a man, young or rich, i pay more. and if you're a woman or old or poor, you pay less. that's discrimination! people say oh, that's because women have been paying more for health insurance like a billion dollars more. but i think it's just obama sticking it to men, because we didn't vote for him. and that's just low. makes me want to march up to the white house and ask if obama care covers emass cue legislation, because that's what's happening, man! women live longer, they have babies, go to the doctor more often. is it fair for us to pay the same as them? is it fair for men to pay for maternity care when we don't have babies? what's fair, mr. obama, is for people to pay for what they use. anything else is making people pay for everyone. and that sounds to me like socialism. and that's -- you know what, you guys. i can't. i can't do this. i can't do this. i don't care how much you're paying me. this crap does not make sense. women have been getting screwed on health care forever. and they can't get pregnant

alone. so why shouldn't guys have to chip in? we pay for dates to get them in bed and thebt don't want to pay for maternity costs when it works out? if you're a jung and healthy man, you may pay more now, but you won't be young and healthy forever. trust me, i know. i used to be young and healthy, but that was a long, long time ago. okay. that does it for wee"the cycle." joy is in for martin today. >> borough, i saw all those movies. i'm joy reid. it's monday, november 25th and the president is deploying a west coast offense. ♪ >> most of the political headlines you have read have probably been about the launch of the affordable care act. >> frankly, don't need to talk negatively about the president of the united states. he's taken care of that pretty much on his own. >> you look beyond those headlines. some good things happening. >> president obama is speaking this afternoon in san francisco, where he will once again call on congress to pass comprehensive immigration reform. >> you know what if, they. nt